Re: jed on Debian and Ubuntu

["G. Milde" <g.milde@xxxxxx>]

On 21.06.06, Dave Laird wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 June 2006 3:37 am, Romano Giannetti wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 08:47:06AM +0200, G. Milde wrote:
> > > On 20.06.06, Romano Giannetti wrote:
> > > > A little question for the list: I have just installed ubuntu at home,
> > > > and that downgraded my jed to 16-111.
> > > > Is there any plan to upgrade it to -18 version?

Ubuntu has in the "edgy" version the packages:
    
    jed (0.99.16+0.99.17-pre111-0ubuntu1) [universe]
    editor for programmers (textmode version)
    
    jed-common (0.99.16+0.99.17-pre111-0ubuntu1) [universe]
    byte compiled S-Lang runtime files for jed and xjed
    
    jed-sl (0.99.16+0.99.17-pre111-0ubuntu1) [universe]
    sources of S-Lang runtime files for jed and xjed


these are from the "development version" 0.99.17 (despite the strange name)
and work with S-Lang-2.

It also contains still

    jed-extra (0.1.8) [universe]
    Collection of useful JED modes and utilities
    
which does not work with S-Lang-2!!!!!!


> > > A new version 0.99.18-2 is ready to be released to Debian/unstable soon.
> > > As Ubuntu is Debian based, it is very likely to go to the next Ubuntu
> > > release as well.
> 
> > Yes, but the next release of ubuntu will a "a bit crazy one"... for this I
> > asked if someone was proposing it for backport to Dapper. 

As Dapper comes with libslang2 (2.0.5-1build2), it should be possible to run
jed -18 with it. 

> > is there difference between Ubunto jed and debian jed?
 
> There apparently IS a bit of a difference between the two, but if you run
> apt-get install or dpkg -i they both report the same version, but install
> in different places, is all. I do know, based upon my experiences, that
> Ubuntu and Debian packages seem to work in either environment, with only
> very minor dependency issues. 

So it would be worth a try to install the 18-er Debian packages of 
jed|xjed and jed-common on Ubuntu/Dapper. My gut feeling is that it
might plainly work, but:

   I would recommend to manually purge the Ubuntu jed packages before
   and to backup local settings/additions.

   I cannot promise it will work and a cannot even promise it would be
   possible to cleanly remove (purge) them afterwards.

   If the binary packages fail, it might be worth trying the source
   package.
   
   jed-extra (<< 2.1) fails with jed|xjed (>= 0.99.17)



> > Yes, I can test packages. I have not a lot of time, but I think that doing
> > a package upgrade is quite easy...
> 
> To this I'll add I wish I could help testing packages, but right now Jed
> is mission-critical to a work project I am involved with. However, within
> a week or perhaps less, I will be building a test bench for another
> project and might consider integrating Jed into something like that, then.

There is already public access to the SVN repositroy with the sources for
home-building of the packages. 

However, I can imagine that some people would install and test an
experimental package even before the official release to Debian but shun
the complexity of SVN download and home-building. 

Would it help to have a place for non-official jed Debian packages for
brave and helpful testers? 

Rafael, do you think we could add an download dir for unofficial packages
to http://pkg-jed.alioth.debian.org/?


Günter

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